Monday 19 December 2016

1784 Kinder vs. Knowles Dispute

Extracts from "Captain Dewhurst & his Diary", Edited by W.D. Billington, relating to the Kinder family of Breightmet, and their dispute with Robert and Andrew Knowles.



July 20th, 1784.  Mrs. Kinders to breakfast, she says Robert Knowles has made a demand on her in two bills, one for Andrew, the other from himself, amounting to upwards of £40.  It appears that after the arbitration made by J. B. and R. D., Kinder published an advertisement importing that whoever had any demands on the estate of the late Jane Knowles should specify those demands before November, 1763, and Knowles was made last Monday morning.  It seems tahat Knowles durst not make his demands before his lease was signed by Lord Grey.

J.D.G Note.  These Knowles' were the ancestors to James Knowles, Esq., of Eagley Bank (before noticed).  Mrs. Kinder was of Breightmet Hall, her family residing there more than a century past.  Robert, Andrew and Jane Knowles, interested in foregoing dispute, who we direct ancestors of the late Mr. James Knowles, Town Clerk of Bolton; also of James Knowles (now surviving) of Eagley Bank and Mrs. Kindor of Breightmet Hall.  (Although Dewhurst spells the name "Kinder", the more usual spelling is "Kindor").

July 23rd, 1784.  As the aware made by J.B. and R.D. was thought to be final, they have now no authority to stir further in the affair, and if the do, it is not likely the Knowles would agree to it.  R.D., therefore, advised Mrs. Kinder to apply to Lord Grey's steward to propose to the Knowles to have the matter divided by J.B. and R.D., if J.B.. will consent.  If the Knowles refuse this proposition, to propose it to be left to Lord Grey.

Aug 4th, 1784.  Mrs. Kinder here to tell me Lord Grey was much better.  She wants me to see him.

Aug 11th, 1784. Andrew and Robert Knowles, Francis Smith, and Longshaw here to ask if I thought they should pay the money in their hands to the Knowles's.  I said by nomeans until Lord Grey has given his opinions about it.  Andrew said he would leave the affair to my decision.  Mrs. Kinder sent me two papers containing the Knowle's demands, which I am to lay before Lord Grey tomorrow.

Aug 14th, 1784.  Went to see the Liverpool Players at Manchester in "Jealous Wife" and "Padlock" - and to call at Heaton House on my way to Kindors.

W.D.B Note.  Lord Grey de-Wilton's residence was Heaton House: Now Heaton Park.

To Mr. Bradhaw concerning Mrs. Kinder.  Mr. B. will meet me any time.  called at the Vicarage; saw Mr. Lee and Mr. Fielding on my way to Darcy.

W.D.B Note.  Mr. Bradshaw was, of course, the 'J.B.' who arbitrated with Dewhurst in the Knowles case.  'Darcy' refres to the Bradshaw home, Darcy Lever

August 19th, 1784.  Mrs. Kinder here and said she had paid Mr. Taylor either three or four guineas for his trouble.  I told her I had seen Lord and Lady Grey.

September 5th, 1784.  To meet Mr. Bradshaw at the Swan next Monday morning to breakfast at eight o'clock to settle the affair - Kinder versus Knowles.  He sent me a melon.

To Mr. Bradshaw, Dear Sir, - Mr. Rathbone, who is Mrs. Kinder's attorney, thinks if we meet next saturday there will not be time to get the evidence together.  If, therefore, you are not engaged on Monday next, I will breakfast at the Swan at 8 o'clock.  I will attend to nothing but new matter.  I perfectly agree with your sentiments concerning the ale houses.  I am obliged by your kind present of a very fine melon, and am etc. my best respects to Mrs. Bradshaw - Bolton, 8th September"

September 12th, 1784.  To Rivington to breakfast.  Home at four.  To Bolton.  Met Mr. Bradshaw, and settled the affair Kinder against Knowles.  Breakfast at the Swan.  Horse 6d.  Captain Townley here.

November 19th, 1784.  Mr. Kinder sent a couple of woodcocks.

September 6th, 1785.  To Mr. Kinders to tea.  Met Mr. Bradshaw's servant with a letter concerning the meeting at Broughton about licenses.  Thence to Mr. Bradshaw's and brought back the picture which I had lent to Miss Greaves.

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